Paper patched bullets 303 british jungle

I can achieve groups on paper with all the bullet holes touching and cover the. It does so well i am not going to fool with any other powders. The british attempted to improve its lethality and accuracy in several ways. The other rifle a cavalry carbine barrelled 1896 mle must have seen many cordite mkvii rounds but it does still have a shadow of rifling in its now. Nov 16, 2012 prvi partizan or any other cipeuropean spec mfg.

The british adopted the design and shortly were cranking out thousands of. Some may argue that their guns only shoot 174s etc. Unfortunately they just barely were crimped in the case and i could actually pull the bullets out with my fingers. Paper patching lead bullets british militaria forums. I dont remember if he was neck sizing, but that is what i did. Making fullvelocity, soft cast lead, paperpatched bullets. When you have a clean rag and time to wipe your hands between shots they work fine. So for the past year i have been reloading 150 gr sierra and speer bullets with 38. I get results i am satisfied with from a grease grove bullets. Unfortunately hunting season is only 9 days here so i havent been able to test these babies on game. Enter your name, address, and billing information for prompt shipment. I just read about paper patched cast bullets in handloader mag i was wondering if any of you,use them.

In the hands of indians, even ammunition was now dangerous. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. A friend had a bunch of british 303 he wanted to reuse the bullets in noncorrosive cases. This one shot great from the get go with paper patched bullets. Quite possibly one of the most produced bullets in the world, being used in the soviet cartridges like the 7. Smokeless paper patching loading paper patch in the 303 british questions if this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. Sell your 303 british for free today on gunsamerica. One of the earlier attempts, which is still popular today with muzzle loaders and users of black. I also did some hunting rifle paper patching very successfully with my 358 win see other 35 cal thread.

Or, print your order after entering your address, attach your check or money order, and send it by mail. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Exactly 100 years after gosains death, the british introduced the rifle. Perhaps this helps a little to get ya started, paper patch bullets are really cool to load and shoot just time consuming. Paper patching is an evolutionary stage in bullet development that resulted in the jacketed bullet. Manufacturer was the royal ordnance factory, enfield, london.

Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with. My 1902 lee enfield fitted with a no4 barrel gave me 2395 fps with speer 180 gr rn over 38. Cast bullets require a longer bearing surface than jacketed bullets to maintain an equivalent alignment with the bore of the firearm. Ppbs work equally well with black or smokeless powder. If i recall, the cannalures on the original mh bullet were from the.

An inverted standard percussion cap was at the rear of the paper cartridge and. Paper patched vs cast bullets british militaria forums. View all 303 british ammunition and bulk 303 british ammo for sale. And i use a tapered bullet that i find not as accurate as the straight wall bullet that measures patched. Never tried breech seating chase patches in the ballard because the throat is not tapered.

In fact jims molds would have to be my pick for the 303 british. Chase patches have been more accurate than wrapped paper patched bullets for me. He paper patched them with vellum paper, loaded with trail boss to give about fps. The most successful cast bullet designs have a round or flattened nose rather than a long, unsupported ogive. Get the best deals on original ww ii british collectibles when you shop the. If i recall correctly, since he didnt care about the powder or primers, he just dumped the rounds in a bucket of xylene for a couple of days to dissolve away the asphalt seal, then just pulled them with a collet puller. Ive shot chase patches in my muzzle loaders and my 4050 ballard. Cast bullet engineering all about enfieldsall about enfields.

Lee enfield rifles are good candidates for cast bullet shooting. Oct 14, 2016 paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Its is often hard to compare bullets from one gun with another gun, but we feel these match up rather closely with same manufacturer, same gr, and a similar ballistic coefficient. If i recall, the cannalures on the original mh bullet were from the crimping operation at the factory and were very shallow. You can also watch as the paper patch comes off the bullet between the muzzle at 00. I reload but want to expand my ammunition options including factory loads. A rifle is a firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder, with a barrel that has a helical groove or pattern of grooves rifling cut into the barrel walls. We compared the 303 british, hornady soft point interlock, 150gr with the 303 british, hornady soft point interlock, 150gr. The diameter of the cast slick and the thickness of the patching paper are at least a bit critical. We describe another method to economically and simply custom fit the bullet to your rifle bore to make your military surplus rifle shoot. So a friend complains how hard his jungle carbine kicks with military ammo. Aug 11, 2016 im pretty sure you will end up using standard. If i recall correctly, since he didnt care about the powder or primers, he just dumped the rounds in a bucket of xylene for a couple of days to dissolve away the asphalt seal, then just pulled them with a.

Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. I pounded a piece of buckshot into the chamber end of the barrel, and near as i can tell, the throat diameter is. When making paper patched bullets i normally dont use a cannalured bullet, as i have found the paper sometimes gets nipped by the cannalures and fails to shed completely at the muzzle. Grease groove bullets have been the most accurate type so far. Promag magazine bodies are constructed of high carbon heattreated steel and tigwelded for strength. I never have cared for rimmed cartridges in rifles and really dont like the taper on the. I have a 4570 sharps rifle and just recently received my order of 500 grain spire point bullets. These old war horses have a variable size bore made by war time production and worn reamers or by lots of use. Much discussion and cussin have been laid at their doorstep. Probably the niftiest milsurp rifle of all the milsurps, the enfield rifl. Making fullvelocity, soft cast lead, paper patched bullets. And even paper patched some bullets for my 375 hh improved to shoot deer with.

Just wanting to know what you fellows have been using for ammunition in our. Paper ballistics are fine, but 15% or so greater drop at 300 yds really isnt significant. A selection of historic, british military ammunition. You can clearly see the paper patch leaves the barrel intact around the bullet at 00. It has been my experience, however, that most of the cussin has been from folks with little or no personal experience with ppbs. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. Btw, i forgot to mention that the subsonic loads that my brother made were from lee molds dropping 170 gr wheel weight bullets. A very general rule of thumb has it that patched dead soft lead can reach 2,000 fps before things go sideways. Second hand barrel leeenfield jungle carbine 303 nz barrels. Thanks jeff also, it was interesting to see how you can use a smaller dia.

The english leeenfield series of rifles is really a castoff design the americans didnt want. A very general rule of thumb has it that patched dead soft lead can reach 2,000 fps before things go sideways and harder alloys can do 3,000 fps or more. Working with lubricated bullets is messy in my experience. In 1891 the cartridge was adapted to use smokeless powder. Bullet diameter for 4570 paper patched cartridge shiloh.

A beginners guide to loading and shooting paper patched bullets for early black powder cartridge rifles. Jun 12, 2009 1903a3 rifle 1,000 yards 12inch target w paper patched castlead bullets. Paper patching for the martini henry rifle first time ever it is like crafts for adults duration. My all time favorite was 180 gr speer bullets with 40. Unfortunately hunting season is only 9 days here so i. I prefer to use paper patched bullets simply because they are easier to handle. I have also used aa5744 with cast bullets in the 4570 and 3006. I have other molds waiting in the wings, but so far due to the results, ease of use and workmanship in jims molds, theyre staying in the wings. The jungle carbines were manufactured only from 1944 until 1947. Here are the benefits of shooting paper patched bullets in your inline. Of course some have good luck with them and others not. Any under bore variance can usually be compromised by changing the paper to a different thickness. As velocity increased and rifling was introduced a problem of lead remaining in the bore was of concern. Years ago i did some of that paper patching for a 3006 spfld according to the harris developments.

May 17, 2016 myself, i prefer paper patched bullets for three reasons. Most shooters, given quality ppbs and proper loading techniques. The raised areas of the rifling are called lands, which make contact with the projectile for small arms usage, called a bullet. Here are the benefits of shooting paperpatched bullets in your inline. Next i had mountain molds make a 280 grain mold in. It works and is a lot of work to complete,but keeps me off the street. Loading paper patch in the 303 british questions if this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. This practice was outlawed by the hague convention, but the brits didnt. Ive had good success with these bullets and am very impressed with the whelens capabilities using paper patched bullets.